Thursday, November 10, 2005

If at first you don't succeed......

The title of this post seems to be Shimon Peres' mantra - "If at first you don't succeed, try and try and try and try and try and try and try and try (ad Nauseam) again. Will the man ever give up?

After losing countless elections, both for leadership of the Labour party and the country, he looked an absolute shoe in for the job of President when the only man that the Likud could put up against him was Moshe Katzav. Having someone snatched defeat from the jaws of victory he's now gone and done it again by losing the Labour leadership battle to Amir Peretz.

The dignified thing to have done would have been to retire several battles back - after losing the general election to Bibi or the party leadership to Rabin perhaps - can we hope that he might have finally got the message whilst he still retains a (very very very small) scrap of dignity? Or will he insist on continuing to fight (and lose) again?

Shabbat Shalom



Seth said...

he's done a lot of good for the country. things no one would be embarrassed about. ie, ending a period of inflation when it was going at about %1000 per year. He was also the main drive behind making Israel a nuclear power.

don't shit on peres too much. he cares.

Gilly said...

I don't think that I'm shitting on the man - just commenting on his inability to win an election and to know when to call it quits.

shai said...

No one questions Peres' abilities and contribution to this country. He has all the qualities of a statesman, none of which seem to be enough to get the Israeli public to elect him.

Ha'aretz had an editorial over the weekend which theorized that he may actually get a sadomasochistic kick from losing all the time. After all, the man has been in politics for over 50 years.

He has not once managed to win a national election (despite trying five times, six if you count the election for President). He hasn't managed to win any kind of election at all -- including those for head of the Labor party -- in over 15 years.

With this most recent loss, Peres' losing streak becomes mythological.

I just have to agree with Gilly. It would have been best for everyone concerned had Peres simply resigned and been granted some kind of diplomatic job.

Anonymous said...

Peres doesn't seem to get upset by his losing - why are you so upset about it? He is simply doing what he encouraged us all to do last night - playing his part, being involved in the journey of this nation. Maybe we should all follow his example instead of dissing him - eh Gilly??

Anonymous said...

I can't beleive it's taken so long and that I will be the first to point out that Amir Peretz is a Scouser. As good a reason to vote for him as any other!

Ay Ay Cyarm Down Cyarm Down etc

Yellow Boy

Gilly said...

Anonymous, I'm not at all upset by Peres losing - I'd certainly never consider voting for him myself.

At the same time I don't consider that I have "dissed" him by commenting on the fact that he keeps losing and suggesting that this time maybe he'll get the message.

ifyouwillit said...

It takes guts to stand despite numerous defeats, but I agree with the point you made in the original post.

He's done some good stuff for the state, but isn't it always better to end on high?

Anonymous said...

Ay Ay Cyarm Down Cyarm Down all of youse...